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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2008.02.15 02:08:00 -
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Here we go again... 
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learn why these darn ML hardpoints and drone bays are there ffs.
Where are those huge dronebays you keep talking about? Rupture? Stabber? Hurricane?
Hmm, the Cyclone or Bellicose have really big dronebays... oh wait 
Just to repeat again, what needs to be done is changing TC/TE with a falloff modifier, nothing else. It's the direct counter module to TDs, just look at the attributes and tell me it isn't, and therefor needs to be changed as well.
If you think this is wrong, please elaborate why every optimal based turret should get a selection of 2 modules and 1 rig, while falloff based turrets get only a rig (which isn't a counter as we discussed already too many times).
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.02.15 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fager
And i mean if your pretty litte vagabond cant fire at 18km anymore and your drones/missiles wont do - what the hells is stopping you from warping off? Are you so stupid you would enter webrange against a ship with this (unleas you had reason to think there where no webs couse of setup possibilities)...
What is the issue with people thinking vagabond is the only minmatar ship?
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P.S i dont fly AC or hardly Turrets for that matter, but common sense is a powerful weapon - And it tells me TDs+Web will be a rare combo most easy attained with minmatar ships.
What about common sense in TC/TE? Is common sense they work for every turret except the falloff based ones?
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2008.02.15 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Diomidis
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Where are those huge dronebays you keep talking about? Rupture? Stabber? Hurricane?
Hmm, the Cyclone or Bellicose have really big dronebays... oh wait
Character's Selective Reading and Comprehension skill at lvl 5 - am I right?
Where did you ever read "huge"?
 Guess you're not far away from lvl5 either.
But replace "huge" with "adequate", I think thats what you were saying exactly.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but imho 5-40m¦ bandwidth without replacements isn't really adequate to put up a drone based fight (even if we forget about loosing drones for a moment), I'd say "supplemental" would be a more fitting description.
Same goes for missiles, yes we have the doubtful advantage of split weapon systems, but honestly, would you be scared of 3 unbonused HAM IIs ?
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2008.02.15 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 15/02/2008 19:00:34
Originally by: Lady Octavia
For matar whiners:
TC/TE are there to boost guns attributes(optimal/tracking)and not to counter TD ,these modules arent meant to countering TD-s,so asking for a counter against falloff disruptor isnt valid arguement.
From the Player Guide, referring to electronic warfare, about tracking disruption:
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Modules used as a countermeasure:
Tracking Computers
Now if we change TDs (the change isnt bad at all), imho the modules regarded as counter should follow. Yes they are not only used to counter TDs, but claiming they arent counters is nonsense.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2008.02.16 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Player guide also says that it disrupts optimal AND tracking wich is not true. SO lets ignore player guide.
Not true, eh? Check again, it indeed disrupts optimal and tracking at the same time. But if it doesn't suit your argumentation just ignore it 
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